Waaaagh! Rúkh naggit! Khár ug Gork! Únk Gork!
Gork, Mork ja Gogul
Gork, Mork ja Gogul
Siinä on örkkien ja koko WH maailman parhaat jumalat
Waaaagh! Rúkh naggit! Khár ug Gork! Únk Gork!
Waaaagh! Rúkh naggit! Khár ug Gork! Únk Gork!
ja "ylipappina" Tämä tämä... sanokaas nyt... Wurzzag! (tai joku vastaava)
Enpä voi kuvitella örkkejä kovin uskonnollisiksi, ellei lasketa mukaan "urrgh! minä choppaan ihmisä miellyttääkseni Gorkia/Morkia
Enpä voi kuvitella örkkejä kovin uskonnollisiksi, ellei lasketa mukaan "urrgh! minä choppaan ihmisä miellyttääkseni Gorkia/Morkia
Fjalar teki vuoden tauon jälkeen comebackin, nikki vaan vaihtui!
[koko foorumi huutaa tuskasta ^_^]
[koko foorumi huutaa tuskasta ^_^]
Onhan niillä paljonkin uskonnollisia asiota esim. kun kuolee niin pääsee Great Green:iin ja siellä pysytFjalar kirjoitti:ja "ylipappina" Tämä tämä... sanokaas nyt... Wurzzag! (tai joku vastaava)
Enpä voi kuvitella örkkejä kovin uskonnollisiksi, ellei lasketa mukaan "urrgh! minä choppaan ihmisä miellyttääkseni Gorkia/Morkia
Spirits and Da Great Green
When what's left of an orc's spirit finally leaves the earthy plane it goes to Da Great Green. It is brought to Da Great Green by the orc god of death, Gogul ('brought to' is often an exaggeration, generally he just gives them a kick in the right direction). This Great Green is perhaps best described as a great "soup" of orcishness and generally considered a good place to be but not somewhere orcs are in a great rush to go. When an orc is recently dead his spirit is intact in Da Great Green, much like a pea floating in the soup, but after a while his sense of identity slips and his spirit dissolves into the soup. Orcs understand that this is the way things are and accept it as a matter of fact. Shamans can communicate with Da Great Green and the spirits of familiar dead orcs. They do this by smoking various mushrooms, drinking vast quantities of alcohol and dancing around until they reach a state of trance (most of which isn't strictly necessary but gives the shaman an excuse to drink, smoke and dance). The shaman's spirit can then detach itself from his body and go to Da Great Green to visit old friends.
Orc spirits dissolving into the green over time serves a purpose; when an orc is born he or she gets a little bit (a spoonful) of Da Great Green as a spirit to start with. This bit then grows over time as an orc pup grows and becomes self-aware.
In this way no part of an orc is wasted. The body is eaten by the other tribe members while the spirit is partly passed on to other orcs and partly recycled to the next generations. This is the orc version of reincarnation.
But not all orc spirits who leave their dead bodies dissolve into the soup. Some never leave this plane but hang on as ghosts while others go but find a way back.
Orc ghosts are not very common, are generally miserable and nasty beings and almost always happen when a body is carelessly left to go cold before it is eaten. To be allowed to stay in this world the spirit must either strike a bargain with Gogul, beat him in some competition or other or trick him into letting you stay. Neither is very easy, Gogul is not easily tricked or beaten and any deal you strike will seem worse and worse as the years go by. Some do it though, and hang around pestering the living members of the tribe until they do what the ghost wants so that it goes away. Ghosts can be exorcised but this is no easy matter as orcs are notoriously stubborn.
Spirits that have gone to Da Great Green can return but this too isn't easy and seldom happens. In these cases, however, it is more often because the orc would like to pop back and see how the tribe is doing than because of malice. The spirit hangs onto a shaman's spirit when it visits Da Great Green and hitches a ride back. Back in our world it either sets up camp in the shaman's mind, possesses the shaman's hut or some item of his. These ghosts can actually be helpful to the shaman and are generally friendly. If they become too annoying the shaman can attempt an exorcism (not easy if it's the shaman who's possessed) and Gogul will usually throw them back if he's come to pick up another spirit and sees the ghost hanging around.
When what's left of an orc's spirit finally leaves the earthy plane it goes to Da Great Green. It is brought to Da Great Green by the orc god of death, Gogul ('brought to' is often an exaggeration, generally he just gives them a kick in the right direction). This Great Green is perhaps best described as a great "soup" of orcishness and generally considered a good place to be but not somewhere orcs are in a great rush to go. When an orc is recently dead his spirit is intact in Da Great Green, much like a pea floating in the soup, but after a while his sense of identity slips and his spirit dissolves into the soup. Orcs understand that this is the way things are and accept it as a matter of fact. Shamans can communicate with Da Great Green and the spirits of familiar dead orcs. They do this by smoking various mushrooms, drinking vast quantities of alcohol and dancing around until they reach a state of trance (most of which isn't strictly necessary but gives the shaman an excuse to drink, smoke and dance). The shaman's spirit can then detach itself from his body and go to Da Great Green to visit old friends.
Orc spirits dissolving into the green over time serves a purpose; when an orc is born he or she gets a little bit (a spoonful) of Da Great Green as a spirit to start with. This bit then grows over time as an orc pup grows and becomes self-aware.
In this way no part of an orc is wasted. The body is eaten by the other tribe members while the spirit is partly passed on to other orcs and partly recycled to the next generations. This is the orc version of reincarnation.
But not all orc spirits who leave their dead bodies dissolve into the soup. Some never leave this plane but hang on as ghosts while others go but find a way back.
Orc ghosts are not very common, are generally miserable and nasty beings and almost always happen when a body is carelessly left to go cold before it is eaten. To be allowed to stay in this world the spirit must either strike a bargain with Gogul, beat him in some competition or other or trick him into letting you stay. Neither is very easy, Gogul is not easily tricked or beaten and any deal you strike will seem worse and worse as the years go by. Some do it though, and hang around pestering the living members of the tribe until they do what the ghost wants so that it goes away. Ghosts can be exorcised but this is no easy matter as orcs are notoriously stubborn.
Spirits that have gone to Da Great Green can return but this too isn't easy and seldom happens. In these cases, however, it is more often because the orc would like to pop back and see how the tribe is doing than because of malice. The spirit hangs onto a shaman's spirit when it visits Da Great Green and hitches a ride back. Back in our world it either sets up camp in the shaman's mind, possesses the shaman's hut or some item of his. These ghosts can actually be helpful to the shaman and are generally friendly. If they become too annoying the shaman can attempt an exorcism (not easy if it's the shaman who's possessed) and Gogul will usually throw them back if he's come to pick up another spirit and sees the ghost hanging around.
Siis örkithän harjoittaa lähes koko ajan uskontoaan. Kun tapetaan ihmisiä, muita örkkejä tai jotain vastaavaa, niin Gork ja Mork tykkää, kun Gork ja Mork tykkää, niin tulee lisää voimaa ja valtaa tappaa lisää ihmisiä ja muita otuksia ja sitten tulee lisää voimaa tappaa, tuhota ja hajoittaa ja niin edelleen...
Tätä viestiä ei ole testattu kasviksilla eikä siinä mahdollisesti näkyviä perunoita ole vahingoitettu.
Blood
The blood flows all around the body and so it contains a little bit of all the different parts of an orc's spirit. A dead orc's blood is mixed with boar's milk, heated and drunk by all those who are to partake of the body while the rest of the meal is cooking. It is poured into large wooden bowls and drunk together with various spirits (the "alcohol" kind, not the other one) and it is customary to recite stories about the fallen's life while doing this.
Drinking an orc's blood is to consume a little bit of his spirit and since there is only so much spirit to go around actually drinking an orc's blood while he is still alive is very taboo. Vampirism is persecuted with extreme prejudice and a hatred it would be hard for other species to understand. This applies of course only to drinking orc blood, orcs couldn't care less if a vampire drinks the blood of some human tart.
The same principle goes for insects and leeches that suck the blood of the living but orc
blood is poisonous to most types of mosquitos so this matters less.
The blood flows all around the body and so it contains a little bit of all the different parts of an orc's spirit. A dead orc's blood is mixed with boar's milk, heated and drunk by all those who are to partake of the body while the rest of the meal is cooking. It is poured into large wooden bowls and drunk together with various spirits (the "alcohol" kind, not the other one) and it is customary to recite stories about the fallen's life while doing this.
Drinking an orc's blood is to consume a little bit of his spirit and since there is only so much spirit to go around actually drinking an orc's blood while he is still alive is very taboo. Vampirism is persecuted with extreme prejudice and a hatred it would be hard for other species to understand. This applies of course only to drinking orc blood, orcs couldn't care less if a vampire drinks the blood of some human tart.
The same principle goes for insects and leeches that suck the blood of the living but orc
blood is poisonous to most types of mosquitos so this matters less.
Avianin sivuilta löytyy koko artikkeli ja paljon muuta. Myöskin ystävällinen huomautus koskien hänen tekstiensä kopiointia.
siistit sivut, enpä ollut koskaan kuullut koko tyypistä.Dolmot kirjoitti:Avianin sivuilta löytyy koko artikkeli ja paljon muuta. Myöskin ystävällinen huomautus koskien hänen tekstiensä kopiointia.
En nyt tiedä mistä nuo tekstit olet itse ottanut mutta vastaisuudessa pistetään linkki mieluummin kuin pitkiä copy&pasteja. Varsinkin jos lupaa tekstin käyttämiseen ei ole muualla.DaBoss kirjoitti:siistit sivut, enpä ollut koskaan kuullut koko tyypistä.Dolmot kirjoitti:Avianin sivuilta löytyy koko artikkeli ja paljon muuta. Myöskin ystävällinen huomautus koskien hänen tekstiensä kopiointia.
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Oikolukuhirvi
- Viestit: 1742
- Liittynyt: Ti 29.10.2002 19:26
- Paikkakunta: Kuopio
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Nope. "Orcs and Spirituality"-artikkeli on merkitty Avianin tuotokseksi, eikä hänen tyyliinsä todellakaan kuulu tekstin ryöstäminen. Nimiä ja yleisiä ideoita on luonnollisesti haettu GW:n örkkimateriaalista. Teksti on kuitenkin hänen omaansa. Lainausohjeet löytyvät kohdasta "Copying the things on my page". Lukea saa toki niin paljon kuin sielu sietää ja se on erittäin hyvä idea. Harvoin näkee yhtä syvällistä armeija-analyysia.
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Oikolukuhirvi
- Viestit: 1742
- Liittynyt: Ti 29.10.2002 19:26
- Paikkakunta: Kuopio
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