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I.C. Wiener kirjoitti:Age of Sigmar 001: Aelf v Undead Tasapaino, mitä se on?

Gintonic kirjoitti:Pitäskö AoSlle tehdä oma "tasapainotus" threadi? :D

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Gintonic kirjoitti:Pitäskö AoSlle tehdä oma "tasapainotus" threadi? :D

Tuo threadi tulee tehdä ja täytyy kokea.

Sotahullu kirjoitti: Siitä ketjusta ei tule ikinä yhtä hyvää kuin Tarinakisasta. Sori vaan.

WarGameStore kirjoitti:According to GW, the launch in my small store of Age of Sigmar will be "as big a success as I want it to be."

I want it to be amazingly successful.

I expected the support of Games Workshop in achieving this and this is what I got:

A requirement to order 80 copies of the game to get demo material for Saturday 4th July.

80 copies! I am a one man store with a modest annual turnover and see no way I could clear anything like this number.

Even if I had ordered 80 copies the demo kit would not have arrived until late afternoon on Friday 3rd July, giving me about 16 hours to assemble, build and paint the models, terrain pieces and gaming tile…oh and read and absorb the rules to be able to demo the game sensibly.

The 80 copy order was clearly expected despite my:

Having no information about the rules
Having no opportunity to play the game
Having no opportunity to see the models

Talking to GW last Monday it was clear my account manager had detailed product knowledge gained at a training day held in Nottingham. He said, “I cannot say how amazing our training session was or how truly amazing the products I saw were that are coming in the near future… literally for the first time in over 20 years in the hobby and working for Games Workshop was I actually struck dumb (really?) and got over excited like a child in a candy shop.”

A few comments on this:

Why were retailers not invited to training sessions for what was described as, “a turning point in Games Workshops’ Warhammer Universe.”

Promo material could have been provided more in advance of release to allow time for the preparation required (building, painting etc)

If retailers had been given a similar training day, we would have had the opportunity to get as excited as my rep. Although I’m not sure that level of excitement would have been very good for me, turning up at the pearly gates with “Toy Soldier orgasm” as the cause of death would have been quite a talking point.

To summarise

I was expected to place an 80 unit blind pre order based on my GW rep's enthusiasm. I know that any lack of GW Rep enthusiasm would have resulted in a "turning point" in his career as he exited GW with Tom Kirby’s boot up his backside; not I think the best reason for me to place a pre order of this size.

GW seem to behave in a completely contradictory manner:

Obsessed with keeping new products secret until launch day. The result: retailers are ignorant of the very information that would help them present new products in a professional manner and make the launch successful.

At the same time they can’t hold their own water. The internet has been awash with largely reliable rumour and last week detailed images of the new release. My best source of information has been the people coming through my shop door, not the company that supply the products.

So, to be told by GW that:

“You have been given ammunition enough to help sell this product to your customers when they come in over the weekend and next week” is ridiculous.

“This launch will be as big a success as YOU want it to be” and, “If YOU are not bothered about it then this will be picked up on by the customers” is insulting.

Mithrandir kirjoitti:Itse olen pari peliä pelannut normaalisäännöillä ja sitten yhden epävirallisilla turnaussäännöillä jotka Toronton GW:n tiimi laittoi kasaan julkaisuviikolla.

Ihan hirveää scheisseä, oli miten oli. Kyllä noilla säännöillä lapset innoissaan voi leikkiä mutta peli ei tarjoa yhtään mitään meille veteraaneille.

Kings of Warin säännöt latasin ja tulostin alkuviikosta ja nyt piakkoin tarkoitus sitä testata.

Sotahullu kirjoitti:Tämä on hieman hullua mutta onko se mahdollista että GW ajaa "tahallaan" ex-faba pelaajia KoW:in pariin ja sitten GW ostaa Manticin myöhemmin.

Se ei ole ennen kuulumatonta ja on oikeasti mahdollista.

Zymeth Salkir Dkhan kirjoitti:Lisäksi eikös olisi ollut hyödyllistä vain lakkauttaa tuote ja seurata minne lauma ajautuu kuin luoda uusia tuotteita?