Space Wolf huhut

[Da Big Boss]

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[IRiaD]

Kuulostaa sen verta kivalta, että voisin suorittaa suurinta blasphemya ja pelata Dark Angels Successorejani counts as wolffeina 8D

[Da Big Boss]

GENERAL INFO
-To be released October 2009
-Codex written by Phil Kelly
-Space Wolves will supposedly be “even less Codex Astartes” than they were before. This would cover unusual squad sizes etc.

RULES
Army-wide Special Rules
Sagas – Characters can take special skills called Sagas. They are said to work similar to the Vampiric Powers used by Vampire Counts. 75hastings69 gave the example that a character with “Saga of the monster killer” (made up name) may be better at killing Monstrous Creatures, but would suffer a drawbacks such as needing to kill a certain number of them per game.

Wolf Claws – The Space Wolf version of Lightning Claws, allow you to choose to either re-roll “to hit” or “to wound”.

Special Characters
-Logan Grimnar: No news yet
-Ragnar Blackmane: No news yet
-Njal Stormcaller: No news yet, but would share the Rune Priest standard rules.
-Ulrik the Slayer: No news yet, but would share the Wolf Priest standard rules.
-Canis Wolfborn: Mounted on a large cybernetically enhanced Fenrisian wolf. Wears Power Armour and has a pair of Wolf Claws. Canis also allows you to take two cavalry choices, either wolves, or more Marines on wolves.
-Bjorn the Fellhanded: Early rumours reported Bjorn would have AV14 all around, but these have been thrown into disrepute recently.

Special Characters will likely have prescribed (maybe unique) Sagas attached to them.

HQ
-Wolf Lords: May take up to two Sagas. They will have a wide variety of weapon options. May possibly be able to make one unit of Wolf Guard a Troops choice.
-Wolf Priests: Combines the skills of Codex Marines’ Chaplain and Apothacary. Armed with Power weapon, Iron Wolf Amulet (4+ Inv) and Healing Balms and Potions as standard. Will allow units to re-roll “to hit” and also confer Fearless and Feel no Pain on any unit they join. May take up to one saga.
-Rune Priests: Armed with Force Weapon and able to take Space Wolf Specific psychic powers. May take up to one Saga.
-Iron Priests: Will most likely be brought in line with Codex Techmarines. May take up to one Saga. It is unclear if they will be HQ or Elite.

ELITES
-Wolf Guard/Terminators: May take a Wolf Guard Battle Leader who will be able to take up to one Saga.
-Wolf Scouts: Will supposedly remain the same and gain the option be mounted in a Land Speeder Storm
-Lone Wolf: A one-man unit that will be “really strong” and act similar to Tyranid Lictors
-Wulfen: Possibly a "Legion of the Damned" style Unique choice, or maybe something based on HQ selection. It is unclear if they will appear at all.

TROOPS
-Blood Claws: Have supposedly been re-worked in respect to "Berserk Charge" to make them 5th Edition compatible. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader.
-Grey Hunters: Rumoured to be able to take a second special weapon in their squads. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader.

TRANSPORTS
-Rhino: No news yet
-Razorback: No news yet

FAST ATTACK
-Blood Claws Skyriders: Blood Claws with Jump Packs.
-Land Speeder: No news yet
-Land Speeder Storm: Likely Added
-Bikes/Attack Bikes: No news yet

HEAVY SUPPORT
-Long Fangs: May possibly receive some sort of special rule allowing them to move and fire, but not assault. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader.
-Land Raider: Crusader and Redeemer most likely added. Also rumours of a unique Land Raider variant, possibly with three twin-linked Assault Cannon.
-Predator: No news yet
-Whirlwind: No news yet
-Vindicator: No news yet
-Leman Russ Exterminator: Almost certainly removed

[pstj]

3. lokakuuta taitaa olla virallinen julkaisupäivä, se oli sitten 7 viikkoa vielä kärvistelyä.
Lähteenä Warseer ja Bolter and chainsword.

[Morhgoz]

Lots of Space Wolves stuff kicking around the net these last few days. Lets get right to these:

Slashgod

I asked him about Björn and the rumour about his AV14. He responded that he couldn´t tell,but Björn would be the most survivable Cybot in Game.
We also talked in general about Space Wolves and he said that Space Wolves would have extrem stats and some nice special rules but would pay with a lot of points. "You will be always outnumbered".
Logan Grimnar isn´t a fighting character,he is more like Creed, he gives you some special abilities like standing near a Long Fangs and saying you become tank hunter. He will also give even imperial guard special rules,because he is an amazing leader.
If you want a close combat monster you should choose Ragnar,he is young and berserker like.
All of the Special characters will be priced high over Gazhgul Thraka.

I also asked him about Wulfen and 13. company.
I was a little bit shocked when he said that Wulfen won´t come back as a unit. He wanted them more mysterious. You can still fill in some wulfen,but not as a unit costing 18 Points.

And last,i asked him about the Sagas. He confirmed that Sagas will give the complete army boni,not just a unit.

That´s all what i can remember, I hope GD uk will reveal more.



Zarahemna:

My brothers Njal the storm caller has granted me this vision so that you too may know the terrible might of the Space Wolves and howl as their heavy tread draws closer!

I know not of the new range of miniature representations of the sons of Russ, but I have seen the awesomeness of their almighty codex. Gather round now and listen!

Characters:

Njal Stormcaller:

Njal is back in all of his glory. The cyber raven joins him and the most easy comparison is with Tigurius, except that he wears terminator armour and carries mighty runes which blaze and improve his invulnerable save to a 4+. Truly unstoppable he remains.

A storm now covers Njal and this affects enemy shooting and combat prowess (-1 to both within 18" or something like that) and at higher levels can destroy foes and cast them around the table with it's mighty winds. Njal is the master of all six Space Wolf Psychic powers and yes, he is really expensive. Think 250+ points.

Bjorn the Fell Handed. Bjorn is incredibly strong, AV13 to the front and of course venerable. Put those two factors together and he is an almighty warrior. He has four attacks basic and is strength seven. He is also very expensive.

There is also a Telion type upgrade for the Space Wolf equivalent to scouts. This hero, more than three centuries old is the equivalent of a captain and yet with his unruly manners cannot be accepted among the battle brothers, not least because he stole one of the Chapter's thunderhawks and then crashed it during his flight. He upgrades his squad, I cannot remember how.

Battle Brothers:

All Space Wolves have counter attack and acute senses.

Wolf Guard are deceptive, they start off at a little over thirty points but they get very expensive very quickly. A wolf guard with Thunder hammer and Storm Shield weighs in at just under seventy!

There is a character with a special storm shield who can get an extra attack which represents him slapping his opponent with the shield when he charges. He also has furious charge and a thunder hammer that he can throw in a shooting attack. yes, a thrown thunder hammer. When it hits the foe there is an explosion and it reappears with a flash in his hands... Not bad eh?

Blood Claws now come in three flavours, bikers, jump packers and infantry. They remain slightly less able than regualr marines in shooting and close combat but are still really deadly...

Wulfen are gone as a unit.

There is a character who rides a Fenrisian wolf in to battle. It's a bit He-Man esque, but in a good way.

Long Fangs, Heavy Bolters for only a handful of points, you know about the same as a meltagun for regular marines... Also you can carry five heavy weapons... It's brilliant.

How much is a regular Space Wolf? xx points? Oh and you get a special weapon for free. Oh, and if you take ten you get a second special weapon for free... Ten men, and two special weapons for 150 points? Sounds good eh?

Kit? Oh yeah, every space wolf carries a chainsword, bolt pistol and boltgun. Extra attacks, I think so. You can kiss good bye to true grit though.

Oh and one last thing. Dark Angels are now not alone in being able to field Terminator only armies! SW's can field all terminator armies as one of their characters makes it possible to field T's as troops choices!

[Da Big Boss]

Very nice.

Hmm.... Parasta on selkeästi mielestäni Njal ja long fangit, näitä otetaan armeijaan kaksi parhaimmillaan.

Techpriest olis hieno tehdä, wuffeille. Olisi jännä figu...

[Mysterous]

Techpriest olis hieno tehdä, wuffeille. Olisi jännä figu...

Techpriest? Thou ain't meaning Iron Priest?

[Half-breed]

Jaha kaikki mikä vähänkin tuntuu coolilta menee sitten codexiin ilman että jantterit funtsisi asiaa ilman humalatilaa (Ei tuollaista voi selvänä keksiä.)
Tulee DA-pelaajana ihan tippa silmään kun näitä juttuja lukee. Ei sitten GW:lle riittänyt potkaista meitä haaroihin, ja tönäistä maahan, nyt vielä pitää nauraa päälle sormella osoittaen. Noh ehkä sitten ens edikassa DA saa arvoisensa kohtelun (Hahaa, juu ja lehmät lentää.)

[pstj]

Tosiasiahan on että DA vaan on se huonompi näistä kahdesta ;)
Toivottavasti ei tule liian kovaa koodekkia tuosta, muuten joka toisesta mariiniarmeijasta tulee counts as susia. Muutenkin hyvä jos onnistuisi välttämään "onpas noi kovia, tehdään näistä kovempia ja seuraavasta uudesta se kovin"-kierrettä, mikä tuntuu olemaan GW:lla pahana tapaha.

[santso]

yeah!!! wolfguard termiksistä koostuva armeija!!!! toivois että näistä sais samantyylisiä kuin nobi yksiköistä.

ja heitettävät thunder hammerit kuulostaa herkuilta...

[Muutoksen tuoja]

Nyt alkaa kuulostamaan jo pelottavalta. tehdään wulffeista tavallisiakin huomattavasti parempia ja customoitavia.. ainiin ja samalla viedään muilta armeijoilta persoonaillisuus...

[Da Big Boss]

Naah, kyllä se persoonallisuus kaartilla, örkeillä ja muilla pysyy. Tosin DA ja vanillat itkevät verisiä kyyneleitä.

Mää tahdon noita.

[pstj]

Nyt alkaa kuulostamaan jo pelottavalta. tehdään wulffeista tavallisiakin huomattavasti parempia ja customoitavia.. ainiin ja samalla viedään muilta armeijoilta persoonaillisuus...

Kustomoitavuushan oli päivän sana jo viime kodekissa, eli se ei tuo sinällään lisäarvoa. Persoonallisuudesta... Onhan nuo nyt alun alkaenkin olleet aika selkeästi erottuva porukka muista marinaadeista, joten sen korostamista nyt ei voi varsinaisena valituksen aiheena pitää.

[Mikki N]

There is a character with a special storm shield who can get an extra attack which represents him slapping his opponent with the shield when he charges. He also has furious charge and a thunder hammer that he can throw in a shooting attack. yes, a thrown thunder hammer. When it hits the foe there is an explosion and it reappears with a flash in his hands... Not bad eh?

Smite, Charge, Blessed Hammer ja FOH samassa? Eihän tuohon voi skill pointit riittää...

[A-P]

Smite, Charge, Blessed Hammer ja FOH samassa? Eihän tuohon voi skill pointit riittää...

Hän on Thor! Ukkosen jumala ja Odinin poika! Ei hän mitään "skill pointteja" tarvitse! Mutta ihan vakavasti, Copy/Paste viittaukset viikinkimytologiaan menevät tässä vähän överiksi IMO. En voi välttyä ajatukselta että suunnittelutiimi kävi ottamassa parit Bugmanin baarissa ja joku joka oli pikkupoikana lukenut Marvelin sarjiksia heitti tämän idean.

[santso]

=figu joka on pakko hommata!!!!!

[Guardsniper]

Nyt alkaa kuulostamaan jo pelottavalta. tehdään wulffeista tavallisiakin huomattavasti parempia ja customoitavia.. ainiin ja samalla viedään muilta armeijoilta persoonaillisuus...

Kustomoitavuushan oli päivän sana jo viime kodekissa, eli se ei tuo sinällään lisäarvoa. Persoonallisuudesta... Onhan nuo nyt alun alkaenkin olleet aika selkeästi erottuva porukka muista marinaadeista, joten sen korostamista nyt ei voi varsinaisena valituksen aiheena pitää.

Valituksen aihe ei tainnut olla se, että hukat olisivat erilaisia kuin muut vaan samanlaisia. Kopioivat DA:lta sen ainoan asian, joka teki niistä ainutlaatuisia... Tod. näköisesti tekevät senkin vielä paremmin. :/

[Vesihiisi]

Tässähän alkaa ihan mietityttämään toteuttaisinko hämärän idean tehdä viikinki Marineita, joilla on FB kääpiön naamapala yhdistettynä Marinejalkoihin ja haarniskan selkäosaan. Yllättävän hyvin sopivat yhteen, vaikka täydellisemmän asenteellisuuden tuo saavuttaisi Cadian jalkoihin liitettynä. Tulisi sellaisia hienoja yliparrakkaita viikinkimiehiä Power Armoureissa, jotka hakkaisivat kaiken lyttyyn ja nielisi simat päälle. Sitten vain uutta taistelua etsimään ja vihollista mättämään.

//Edit: Tietenkin Skaven jättinyrkit + asianmukaiset lähitaisteluvarusteet kruunaisivat olemuksen.

[Z7-852]

Tuntuu taas siltä että über pumpataan wanhaa codexia niin saadaan figujen myynti räjähdysmäiseen kasvuun. Samat ilmiöt varmaan esiintyvät myös Dark eldareiden codexin ilmestyessä, jos se nyt koskaan tulee.

Itse huhuista katsoen niin on mielestäni vähän älytöntä että perus troopit saavat ilmaisia erikoisaseita mutta muuten hinta ei ole kovinkaan kummoinen.

[santso]

eikös tämä kodeksi ilmesty joskus ensi kuussa?