Ohessa koottuna Arin&kumppaneiden ansiokkaasti keräämiä WE-huhuja, tietoja sekä uskomuksia:
26.07.04 kirjoitti:A few people asked questions about WE and got suprisingly large amounts of info, GW are just starting play testing with them and we were told a few cool bits of info:
1: they are definately getting their own spell law
2: They'll lose no -1 at long range but get no -1 for moving and will get bonuses for closer range (unspecified) the idea is to get WE to perform more hit and run rather than standing on the opposite table edge and shooting.
3: There will be lord, hero, core, special and rare non-elf units i.e. a lord tree spirit etc. allowing WE to take all elf, all tree sprits or a mixture of the two.
4: The models are going to be much more dynamic to look like they're jumping out of the woods for a few shots before running away.
20.08.04 kirjoitti:Having recently spoken to guys who've seen the archer sprue:
-Apparently WE archers are going to be the most detailed plastic sprue GW have ever done.
-The spure includes many poses uncommon to plastic since WE will skirmish, such as kneeling archers, no single pose bret archers.
-The guys mentioned foliage and stuff also on the sprue.
-Likely 16 per box.
-Killing blow at short range, lack 36" range.
Other WE stuff:
-Very celtic as has already been suggested.
-Dryads, Naiads(spelling?)- a hero type are very lithe, thin and female.
-There was another type of dryad mentioned.
-No Gladeguard.
I'm not sure how much of this was speculative, but since both guys have recently spent a lot of time at HQ I think it's probably true.
30.08.04 kirjoitti:Wood Elves:
As already mentioned, Anthony Renolds is working on the WE armybook and he "has a lot of fun doing that".
One of the reasons why WE are one of the last armybooks on the shedule is that they are not really a that popular army (I guess same could be said about Chaos Dwarfs and DoW) and that one army has to be the last...
According to Gav, there'll not be Centaurs in the WE army, but there'll be the mentioned "Elves + Forrest-folk = WE army book" thing.
30.08.04 kirjoitti:@WE miniatures:
They are currently producing WE miniatures, but it's all about 3-up models atm. Iirc the WE will be designed using the old style casting process as well.
While there'll not be any Centaurs in the army, the miniature range will be completely redone and Gav said that we'd most likely not be dissapointed by the final result.
16.09.04 kirjoitti:I had also heard the rumors of darker fluff, which I also find very promising. However, I was trying to keep my list to fluff that is already definitively part of the army, rather then potential future fluff.
Then again, this is wood elf rumors. So the rumors I have heard about wood elf fluff will be that there is a dangerous forest spirit/god, something of a dark heart of the wood that the wood elves serve while simultaneously holding it in check with the waystones.
Orion and Ariel will be elves who sold their souls to this being, rather then avatars of Kurneous and Isha, which is pretty much fine by me, as the roll of mortal representative of Isha was already filled.
Overall this will give wood elves a dark, dangerous feel, taking them out of the "good guys" category and putting them into the "neutral" category. Matching this change in fluff tone will be a grim, savage look to the new models.
At least that's the rumor. I like it, though I'm not sure exactly how reliable it is.
02.10.04 kirjoitti:Just surfing the net, and came across these on Dakka.
A few people asked questions about WE and got suprisingly large amounts of info, GW are just starting play testing with them and we were told a few cool bits of info:
1: they are definately getting their own spell law
2: They'll lose no -1 at long range but get no -1 for moving and will get bonuses for closer range (unspecified) the idea is to get WE to perform more hit and run rather than standing on the opposite table edge and shooting.
3: There will be lord, hero, core, special and rare non-elf units i.e. a lord tree spirit etc. allowing WE to take all elf, all tree sprits or a mixture of the two.
4: The models are going to be much more dynamic to look like they're jumping out of the woods for a few shots before running away.
03.10.04 kirjoitti:I'm sure that someone will better this but I've just got home from the Birmingham NIA and thought that you would like a little run down of what I remember.
* Portent got mentioned a couple of times in the Warhammer seminar. The first was when they were showing a Wood Elf concept sketch which they assured us they had produced themselves not lifted from Portent. The second was when the guy with a notepad that was sitting next to me asked a question, the GW bloke with the microphone came over and jokingly said "don't tell him he's writing it all down for Portent" they answered his question anyway though. I don't however know if his note were for the benifit of this website though. I thought that you guys my be glad to know that you got a bit of recognotion as a community and of course this was a backhanded confirmation that they read these boards
* Wood Elves will follow the Lustria book, the entire range is being redone and added to, they will lose their ability to shoot at long range with no penalty but instead will be able to move and shoot with no penalty. You will be able to field an all Wood Elf or all Athel Loren army or a mixture of the two. The WE are not good or bad more more akin to a force of nature like the sea. They consider the current army is not very fun to play against and wish to introduce more elements designed to be in HTH to counter this. They will have light cav and a unit that acts in a similar fashion to heavy cav but NO chariots.
04.10.04 kirjoitti:Anthony Reynolds, who is writing the (Wood Elf) Army Book, gave us a few insights at GD:
-1 to hit at long range is confirmed, as is no move or fire penalty. He is aware that WE can be frustrating to fight against and he plans to lessen this by making it more attractive for WE players to "move closer".
Larger minimum size of units.
Glade Riders will have a heavier option.
Wardancers and Dryads will be made more different - he said they have too similar a role at the mo.
WE magic will be Athel Loren flavoured - but he admitted Treesinging was too powerful.
He was aware that Glade Guard are over-priced and under-used - he will fix this.
Two "sizes" of treeman.
New units which I inferred were tree-spirits-based.
There will be three types of army you can choose - Shooty skirmishing (I guess like now), more meaty HTH army or wood spirit army (no elves at all).
19/10/2004 kirjoitti:We are very pleased to announce that Graham McNeill (author of the Ultramarines novels) has signed up to do a Warhammer fantasy novel about wood elves. This will be our first ever book about these unusual and elusive creatures, and its release (Autumn 2005) will tie in with the new Warhammer army book. Judging by the quality of Graham's previous books, Guardians of the Forest won't hold any punches!
25.10.04 kirjoitti:woodelves are looking good and Anthony was really hyped up about them, they're due out mid-late next year. he hinted that we will indeed see some 'old favourite' special characters, though not specificaly orion and ariel
25.10.04 kirjoitti:Wood Elves...
Whole new army book. Hunting spears stays, as does orion. New units, can have all missile and all cav armies. No siege weapons, no modifier for moving, now modifier for long range. More powerful when the opponent is closer. Spirit sum-things are now as powerful as a greater demon and have new spells. Much more new wargear...minimum missile unit is 10 men! Coming out here mid-time next year. All new models.
06.11.04 kirjoitti:Some news,about WE,that come from a VERY reliable source
There will be a stag rider....cause giant stags will be monstrous mount for heroes!!Nice idea!
Something about forest spirits' list:
There will be a Lord choice called Great Spirit of the forest that will be something like a daemonic greater daemon for a matter of stats(and rules..they in fact have a WS5+ just like daemons).Could be a spellcaster
The hero choice will be a hero-level Treeman
For core units WE will get:dryads..different from the ones we use today,but already skermishers,cause fear unit.No word about aspects however
The second core choice will be tree sprites..they will work out as gnoblars for ogres,thus being something like an upgrade for WE troops
Special choice:ucorn...ogre size treeman
Rare Choice:great treeman
So this list will be something like a Daemonic legion for the forces of Light
WE archers will get St4 shots at close range.Waywatchers will get killing blow with arrows!!
That's all for now
22.11.04 kirjoitti:I had the chance to go and visit the design studio early this year as part of a job interview and got to see much of the upcoming material for the wood elves, though it seemed as if it was still in the very early stages of development.
Fact 1: Alex Hedström is one of the main guys in charge of the miniatures
Fact 2: The miniatures are very savage in apperance, and their hairstyles much more celtic and ornate than that of the high elves or dark elves.
Fact 3: Wood Elf women participate much more in the new army than before, they are now to be found both as charachters and as as rank and file units
Fact 4: The fluff is undergoing a mayor haul...the wood elves are now a race bordering on extinction, savagely fighting anyone and resorting to massive purges of their sorrounding lands, as well as migrating a lot to ensure their survival. This means their armies are not only restricted to guerrilla warfare but also capable of full size head to head engagements, though their numbers are few and they rely heavily on allied troops and special units (sylvan spirits and animal kindreds are amongst these).
Fact 5: First wood elves should hit the stores around nov-dec 2005
Fact 6: Chariots will not be reappearing, neither will glade riders (they are to be replaced by another option)
Facy 7: Wood elves will have the same rules as Beastmen herds when it comes to formations, except they have better chances of appearing as they do not suffer from the Unruly rule
Fact 8: The only miniatures I saw were somebasic archers and waywatchers, the archers had somesort of organic armour that was a mix of pieces of wood and rope and leaves, some had more heavier type of armour than others and the Waywatchers were really stunning, looked like present day waywatchers but in very dynamic poses (one seems to be jumping down shooting in mid air)
Thats all folks, GW is very secretive about the whole project and I wasnt allowed to see more...
24.11.04 kirjoitti:Juan Diaz on sculptannut uudet Dryadit ja tekee tällä hetkellä Treemaneja.
Alex Hedström on sculptannut uudet Archerit ja Waywatcherit ja on muutenkin koko WE projektin johdossa.
WE figut ja army book julkaistaan marraskuussa 2005.
24.10.05 kirjoitti:Ok, had a chat with someone today very brief though.
A few things were mentioned such as a new elven steed model.
Wood elves can have Waywatcher and Wardancer heroes.
Waywatchers can no longer set traps but they have the killing blow ability with S4 bows...
Magical equipment is interesting. A couple of magic bows AND magical arrows. Stuff like being able to target models in units, d3 damage and some other things.
New special character...
Twin sisters, who share a soul or something. Both opposites of each other but are the same person. One is a redhead with light clothes, one dresses dark with white hair. I think they have bows...
If you kill one, but not the other in a single turn, the one you killed comes back to life. To kill them off you need to get them both in the same turn. Kinda harsh huh?
To make things a little harsher they ride a dragon, between them. One on the head and one on the back.
thats all I can really remember for now.
24.01.05 kirjoitti:-current dryads moved to Core and made less badasss. New dryad-type creatures for special, in between currently dryads and treemen (i.e. Ogre sized).
-Dryad Hero choice
-option to make a Treeman into a Lord
-the pretty much confirmed heavier "cavalry" unit
09.02.05 kirjoitti:This is something I heard on the second day of the UK GT, another rumour (but spoken to me as if it was fact). By someone who I again have no idea who he is or what he has to do with gw.
This rumour is about everyone's favorite female forest spirits.
Dryads
- They will be a core choice, but won't count towards any of the minimum core allowance
- They will be lowed in cost to 13 points.
- They will lose all aspects. The rule completely dropped.
- Their states are staying the same as they are now but with one change. They will only be strength 3.
- For some reason they are going to basically be demons. They will get the 5+ demonic ward save, they will cause fear, and be immune to pyschology. (I didn't here a mention about them going pop out of existance if they lose combat, like demons can. And I didn't think to ask at the time.
So if this is true they are basically just going to become, a more exspenice and less useful version of ghouls.
They will have slightly better stats (+1M, +1WS, +2I and the most useful +2LD) but on the minus side, they won't have poisoned attacks and won't be able to flee as a charge reaction.
All in all if this is true, the bringing woodies into line with the other elven armies has begun. Ie. The neuttering has started.
11.02.05 kirjoitti:I don't think I've seen this rumour, make the rounds yet on portent, but I know it has on some other message boards (I posted it on Mach's wood elf site myself).
Again this was something I've told whilst at the GT final. The person who gave me this rumour also claimed to be one of the wood elf play testers. But again I've got no idea how true it is.
This time its about a completely new unit for woodies.
The Winter Guard.
Fluff for them is pretty simple, but then also kinda of cool imo.
When the king and the queen are sleeping in the middle of winter, ready to be reborn the spring. Well this is when Athel Loren is at its weakest, so a new unit is formed just for this time, from the elite of the wood elven warriors, the Winter Guard.
Statswise they are just basically elite elfs, Ws5 and perhaps higher I or LD (but no chance at all of getting S)
It is also very possible they could be stubbern, like most guard units, but I wasn't told this (Just my own belief)
What is interesting about them, is their equipment.
Firstly they will get heavy armour and shield. Making them most heavily armoured of all elven elite infantry (heavy armour itself is super rare for woodies) and then we get their melee weapon.
Sword Staffs
They can basically be used in 3 different ways.
The second rank of the unit may else them as spears.
In the front rank they can be used one of 2 ways, firstly as a hand weapon, to get the hand weapon/shield bonus. Or they may be used as additional hand weapons. (Its also possible this is the new weapon of the glade guard as well, as the plastics look as if they are armed with this item).
All in all, I believe that this unit could be pretty cool, they can either have an excellent armour save (exspecially for an elven elite infantry unit) or throw a hell of a lot of low strength attacks and if they are stubborn as well, they would be an excellent unit to take a charge.
I'm afraid what I don't know is their cost. So if this rumour is true we could actually have a reasonable elven infantry unit for its cost. But then again its just as possible they could go the way of Durchii and Asur elite infantry, lovely models, but just to expensive points wise to be worth using.
Laters.
Lestat.
14.02.05 kirjoitti:Woodelves
- release from august to october.
- book has 80 pages.
- two lists for elves and spirits
- dryads get core choices (models looking like these scary spirits coming out of a tree, reaching out for thier prey)
- plastic box that is used to make both archers and spearmen.
- gladeriders are in the book. plastic box with new elven horses, contains 8 models.
- new wardancer models, very agile
- warhawk riders are in. new models where the elf stands/surfs on the hawk (now looking more like a pidgeon) and not rides it.
- old dragon model, two new riders one with a bow and one standing on top with a spear.
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