Dark elf huhuja

[JinxsD]

Warseeriin törähti nyt lisää kuvia värjätyistä figuista ja myös tactical notes sivusta kuva jossa nyt löytyy tietoa :) GW:een Games Day Baltimoresta. Kuvat löytyvät siltä samalta delffien rumour roundup sivulta.

Kyllä Hydra vaan maalattuna (useista kuvakulmista )näyttää herkulta kuten myös assasiinit ja kylmiöt , lordit... ynnä muut :D eipä enää kauan pidä odottaa.

[coiled one]

Juupa juu, tulevista delffeistä nyt sitten tuli juuri sen näköisiä kuin halusinkin. petskules. Tulee pitkä loppu kesä.. :P

[Lord Mikke]

Saas nähä kuinka kauan pystyy vastustamaan kiusausta tämän armeijan kanssa... AB on ainakin GW:n parhaimmistoa.

[Morhgoz]

I had a quick flick through the Dark Elf Book. They had several characters, 2 of them being upgrades to your troops. Spearmen are now 6pts each, corsairs are 10 pts each. Assasins are now not character choices, but unit choices at 90 pts. They strike first and have some new options like poisons etc.

Dark rider models are not changing at the moment, and they are not yet changing the Dark Elf Chariot.

3 New assassin models are being released, along with 2 new sorceresses.

The magicians have the special rule now that they can use unlimited power dice to cast a spell and every Dark Elf Magician has the extra 1d3 power dice spell as standard before they role for spells. (the extra power dice must be used by the magicians individually)

But if you have any power dice in your pool at the end of the magic phase that each magician has not used, it can cause the magician problems and even explode!

Kurhan, darkblade, makelith, Hag special character but cannot remember her name.

Cold One Riders are base strength 4 but still suffer from stupidity. If you include darkblade in the unit they then dont suffer from stupidity.

Will try and remember more!

Cheers

Kragnorak

Dark Elf models look amazing and the Dark elf riders are a plastic multipart kit!

After flicking throught the Dark Elf rulebook: the army rule is hatred aginst all opponents, and against High Elves they reroll all to hits in every round of combat!

There are two metal generals on foot, both with little dragons on their shoulders.
Box of 5 plastic cold ones
Scorceress on whirling cloud of magic!
A new metal general on cold one

A special character with a mask which looks like the Kracken shaped standard on that you can see in the recent WD pics. Fluff says that he uses magic to let his troops breathe underwater when carrying out raids.

The blood cauldron is a slow moving war machine type thing. You can use one of four abilities to help you all DE troops not just Witch elves, but I cannot remember what these are. If anybody can add to this that would be great....There was a lot of stuff to take in!

Oh I remeber that the Hydra's beast masters can hide behind the Hydra when in close combat. This means that the enemy will have to make all strikes on the Hydra, even if they can choose. Of course the beast masters can be shot at normally, and if they die then a monsterous reaction will have to be rolled for.

[...] DE: models and book on display were some of the best i've ever seen. Lohkir Fellheart wears the helm of the kraken which makes him cause terror. He has a rule where any enemy pursued and caught (possibly by his unit, can't recall) is taken as slaves and is worth double VPs.

Cold one knight are the best cavalry i've ever seen. Unbelievably detailed. I'm certainly getting a few. Special characters include Morathi and Crone Hellbron. [...]

Ooh yes, there's a lovely new noble we've not seen yet with a spear leaning on his shoulder standing on a HE helmet.

There's a chance he was Kouron and it was a halberd, not too sure.

[Morhgoz]

Cold One Kinghts
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Corsairs
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Kansikuva
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[Morhgoz]

Hydra's Teeth
Gives the bearer 5 teeth. Any number of these can be thrown, each one causing D3 WS2 S3 attacks on the target unit.

Black Dragon Egg (30pts)
One use only. Eaten at the start of either player's turn. Gives the user Toughness 6 and a Breath Weapon attack until the end of the turn.

Potion of Strength
One use only. Gives the bearer +3 strength until the end of the turn

Seal of Ghrond (25pts)
Same as in 6th Edition by moved from Talisman to Enchanted

I also remember another "One Use Only" item which made the bearer and his unit ItP until the end of the turn aswell. But for the life of me I can't remember the cost or it's name. I think it fell in between the Hydra Teeth and the Black Dragon Egg in terms of price.

Weapons:

Executioner's Axe
Same as in 6th Edition, still struggling to see the use of it.

Blade of Ruin (50pts)
Same as in 6th Edition

Chillblade (50pts)
Back from 6th Edition, and much improved. Each hit makes the target take a toughness test or take a wound with no armour save. If a model takes any wounds they cannot attack that turn.

Web of Shadows (50pts)
Same as in 6th Edition but with a points increase from 25pts to 50pts

Hydra Blade (35pts)
Same as in 6th Edition, but with a points decrease from 50pts to 35pts

Caledor's Bane
+3 strength on the charge (NB. It is not stated as a Lance, so can be used on foot - possibly will be errata'd). Ignores Scaly skin saves

Lifetaker (30pts)
30" range, Strength 4, 3x multiple shots. Always hits on a 2+

<<Dagger>>
Magic Dagger which can be combined with normal hand weapons for an additional attack. Grants the bearer the ASF rule.

Crimson Death (25pts)
Same as in 6th Edition, just with a points decrease from 35pts to 25pts

Below the Crimson death were two or three other cheap items who's exact nature eludes me. One was a 25pts Lance with Killing blow, and I recall another Lance (whose exact effect escapes me ). I think one may have been a magic great weapon.

Armour:

Armour of Living Death (60pts)
Almost exactly the same as in 6th Edition, but with a points decrease. Added effect that at the start of the battle you roll a dice - on a 1 he is subject to stupidity for the game.

Armour of Eternal Servitude (35pts)
Heavy Armour, Regeneration

Shield of Ghrond
It's back! Same as int 6th Edition

Armour of Darkness (25pts)
Gives the beaer a 1+ armour save, that cannot be improved. No Shield component

Blood Armour
Same as in 6th Edition

Arcane:

<<Bound PoD Staff>> (55pts)
Contains the "free" Dark Elf spell, PoD. Power Level 4.

<<Familiar>>
At the beginning of the Magic Phase you can mark a point within 6" of the Sorceress and more than 1" away from the enemy. The Sorceress can use this point for the purpose of determining LOS and Range for casting spells.

Darkstar Cloak
Same as in 6th Edition

Sacrificial Dagger (25pts)
After rolling the dice to cast a spell, the Sorceress may remove one model from the unit they are with to roll an extra dice before dispel attemtps, may be used once per spell cast. Causes panic test if unit loses more than 25%

Tome of Furion
Same as in 6th Edition

Talisman:

Black Amulet (70pts)
Gives the bearer a 4+ Ward Save. In Close Combat any succesful ward saves reflect the attack doing 1 wound with no saves.

<<Reverse Ward Save>> (35pts)
Gives the wearer a ward save. When wounded roll a dice - if the dice roll is under the strength of the attack the wound is negated. A 6 always fails.

Ring of Hotek (20pts)
Same effect as in 6th Edition, but with a range of 12"

Null Shard (15pts) Gives the bearer Magic Resistance 1. Multiple Null Shards can be bought and the effect stacks.

Gifts of Khaine:

As has been mentioned previously, Assassins can now take up to 75pts from the Gifts of Khaine list.

Witch Elf Hags can take up to 25pts from the Gifts of Khaine list.

Like now, Gifts can be taken multiple times in an army with the exception of two which are noted to follow the special rules for magic items:- For example one per army; magic weapons cannot make poisoned attacks; etc.

These two items are:

Venom Sword - 75pts
Exactly the same as it is now (but is no longer available as a Magic weapon).

Cloak [Name not remembered] - 30pts
Contains a bound spell Steed of Shadows from the Lore of Shadows. Power Level 3.

The rest of the Gifts of Khaine are similar to the current list, but changes and additions I will list below:

Shuriken [Name not remembered] - 30pts
Gives the bearer ranged attacks with the following profile; Thrown 8" range, Strength As user +1, 3x Multiple shots.

Rune of Khaine - 25pts
Gives the model +D3 attacks each round of combat.

Black Lotus - 15pts
Allows the model to re-roll 1s rolled to wound

Dark Venom - 10prs
If the model kills an opponent in a challenge, all wounds inflicted are doubled for combat resolution.

N.B. Manbane (same as current), Black Lotus and Dark Venom replace the models base Poisoned Attacks.

Magic Banners:

Banner of Nagarythe - 125pts
Same as in 6th Edition, but points cost reduced slightly.

Hydra Banner - 80pts
Same as in 6th Edition.

Dread Banner - 40pts
Same as in 6th Edition, but points cost reduced.

Standard of Slaughter
Same as in 6th Edition, though I think it is no longer only on the first charge.

ASF Banner [Name not remembered] - 25pts
Grants the unit the Always Strike First rule

AP Banner [Name not remembered] - 20pts
Gives the unit the Armour Piercing special rule

Please remember that this list is not conclusive as there were at least 3 more banners whose exact effects I cannot remember. All of the old Temple of Khaine items also made it across in the transition, with the changes noted above.

[NuuNuuWarrior]

Siis näille on tulossa uusi armybook? Kannattavaa ostaa nykyistä käytettynä?

[Machine_Spirit]

Siis näille on tulossa uusi armybook? Kannattavaa ostaa nykyistä käytettynä?

ei.

[flagu]

Siis näille on tulossa uusi armybook? Kannattavaa ostaa nykyistä käytettynä?

Jep, uutta pukkaa ja ei, älä osta nykyistä edes käytettynä.

[El Capitan]

Siis näille on tulossa uusi armybook? Kannattavaa ostaa nykyistä käytettynä?

Jep, uutta pukkaa ja ei, älä osta nykyistä edes käytettynä.

Mitä, miksei? Jos armeijan fluffi kiinnostaa pätkääkään niin sittenhän se on hyvä ostaa käytettynä pilkkahintaan, jos joku haluaa siitä eroon.

Jos haluaa vaan pelata, niin sitten valittee sen, kummasta saa hauskemman armeijan ja etsii kaverin, jota huvittaa pelata vanhaa kirjaa vastaan. Ei se vanha ihan pelkkä takkapuun korvike ole.

[flagu]

Siis näille on tulossa uusi armybook? Kannattavaa ostaa nykyistä käytettynä?

Jep, uutta pukkaa ja ei, älä osta nykyistä edes käytettynä.

Mitä, miksei? Jos armeijan fluffi kiinnostaa pätkääkään niin sittenhän se on hyvä ostaa käytettynä pilkkahintaan, jos joku haluaa siitä eroon.

Jos haluaa vaan pelata, niin sitten valittee sen, kummasta saa hauskemman armeijan ja etsii kaverin, jota huvittaa pelata vanhaa kirjaa vastaan. Ei se vanha ihan pelkkä takkapuun korvike ole.

No jos ei googlea osaa käyttää tai Critical hittiä jaksa lukea niin mikäs siinä. Toisaalta jos Dwarfmies asuisi tampereella niin hän vois käydä metsossa lainaamassa delffien nykyisen armybookin ^^

Mutta peli mielessä ei taida olla niinkään kannattavaa hankkia sitä nykyistä armybookkia.

[Lord Mikke]

Jee! Niillä on edelleen pelin turhin banneri! :D

[Xenon]

Jee! Niillä on edelleen pelin turhin banneri! :D

Kyllähän se aina pakolta jollakin armeijalla on. ;D

[El Capitan]

Jee! Niillä on edelleen pelin turhin banneri! :D

Mutta menettivät pelin huonoimman magia-aseen :(. Nyyh, tyhmyysmiekka oli niin hyvä.

[IRiaD]

Jee! Niillä on edelleen pelin turhin banneri! :D

Mutta menettivät pelin huonoimman magia-aseen :(. Nyyh, tyhmyysmiekka oli niin hyvä.

Jees, asettelisin seuraavaksi ehdokkaaksi korkeitten Foebanea, joka woundaa yli kolmiwoundisia 2+... Pulmanahan on vain se, että hötti maksaa sen 25pts, ja puolella siitä hinnasta saa Great Weaponin, joka woundaa lähes kaikkea vähintään 3+ ja vie vielä armoritkin paremmin kuin tuo taikakarttu. Jotain Dragonia vastaan ehkä ainut hyvä tilanne jossa tuo voisi olla tarpeellinen, silloinkin ollaan jo aika kuolleita :P

Penteles muuten kun helffien magiakorut muka pitäisi olla halvimpia, ja tuolla nuo lateksih*mot saa D3 attackimiekkaa 35pts, kun helffit maksaa +3A miekasta 70pts... Go figure :D

Crimson Death lähinnä jaksaa naurattaa vaikka halpenikin, koska me saadaan yhäkin sama tulos Great Weaponilla puoleen hintaan ASF:n kanssa...

[Kheirakh]

Mutta Crimson death on taika-ase, jolla sää mätkittyä spirit hostit ja cairn wraithit kumoon. Normi great weaponilla sitä et tee.. No ok, vähän köykänen silti, mutta käänteis-ward save ja 35 pts regeneraatio on kutaa.. Samoin hydra blade ja potion of strenght yhdessä.

[Lord Mikke]

Jee! Niillä on edelleen pelin turhin banneri! :D

Mutta menettivät pelin huonoimman magia-aseen :(. Nyyh, tyhmyysmiekka oli niin hyvä.

Jees, asettelisin seuraavaksi ehdokkaaksi korkeitten Foebanea, joka woundaa yli kolmiwoundisia 2+... Pulmanahan on vain se, että hötti maksaa sen 25pts, ja puolella siitä hinnasta saa Great Weaponin, joka woundaa lähes kaikkea vähintään 3+ ja vie vielä armoritkin paremmin kuin tuo taikakarttu. Jotain Dragonia vastaan ehkä ainut hyvä tilanne jossa tuo voisi olla tarpeellinen, silloinkin ollaan jo aika kuolleita :P

Nykykirjassa se on muuten 2 haavaa tai enemmän, jolloin ensimmäinen asia mikä juolahtaa mieleen on muutkin kuin lord- tason sankarit.

[clutch]

Toi lifetaker on kyl ihan naurettavan kova verrattuna johonki "parhaiden archereiden" bow of loreniin. Meneeköhän niillä täl kertaa 10 vuotta uusia welffi kirja, figut saa pysyä samana.

[Hakkapeto]

Toi lifetaker on kyl ihan naurettavan kova verrattuna johonki "parhaiden archereiden" bow of loreniin. Meneeköhän niillä täl kertaa 10 vuotta uusia welffi kirja, figut saa pysyä samana.

En nyt kyl tiiä tajusinko sun pointtia, mut Bow of Loren ei todellakaan ole huono. Ehkä vaan käytät sitä väärin, ei sitä kannata sille spellsingerille laitta jolla on vaan 1A. Haluaa kaverikseen myös Arcane bodkinsit.

Mut joo, onko kukaan sattunut näkemään huhuja delffien dragonista? Saako sellaista enää highbornin (vai mikä lie onkaan uudessa kirjassa) alle? Minkähänlaiset statit sillä tulisi olemaan, parissa viime julkaisussa (helf, VC ) kun ollaan lohareita hieman muunneltu.

[Rizky]

Naurettavampaa on, että saa min. 2+ ward/save. Ottaa tuon reversal wardin ja 1+ armorin. Kiva juttu.